Opened 3 years ago
Last modified 7 months ago
#13433 new enhancement
Replace "admin" with "administrator" or "administration"
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| Priority: | normal | Milestone: | Future Release |
| Component: | Text Changes | Version: | 3.0 |
| Severity: | normal | Keywords: | has-patch gsoc ux-feedback |
| Cc: | tracs@…, wojtek.szkutnik@… |
Description
Since "administrator" is right name for user who administrates site, we should replace occurences of "admin" because of consistency and because it adds confusion since "admin" is also used instead of "administration".
You can easily see current 17 occurences by searching on GlotPress (eg. http://tinyurl.com/39m7xeh)
Attachments (2)
Change History (14)
comment:1
dimadin
— 3 years ago
- Summary changed from Replace "admin" with "administrator" or "admin" to Replace "admin" with "administrator" or "administration"
wojtek.szkutnik
— 3 years ago
comment:3
wojtek.szkutnik
— 3 years ago
- Cc wojtek.szkutnik@… added
- Keywords has-patch gsoc added
comment:4
follow-up:
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nacin
— 3 years ago
- Milestone changed from Awaiting Triage to 3.1
"Administrator Color Scheme" => "Dashboard Color Scheme", I'd think. "Administration" doesn't sound right.
"Site administrator only" on themes.php should be "Super"...
Patch probably needs refresh.
comment:5
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markmcwilliams
— 3 years ago
Made the suggested change to Dashboard, I agree, Administration doesn't sounds quite right. Changed it from site to super, and also refreshed the patch looking in all the same files in the first patch! :)
comment:6
follow-up:
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caesarsgrunt
— 3 years ago
You probably ought to consult with Jane before making this change.
I realise it looks like a minor thing, but the term 'admin' has always been used throughout the admin and in all documentation etc (maybe with a few minor exceptions) and so to suddenly change to 'administrator' and 'administration' is quite drastic.
Also, I personally find the new strings more confusing. I was never confused by 'admin', whereas to me at least, some of these strings mean a slightly different thing when admin is replaced by administration or administrator, and a lot of them sound a little odd to me. Maybe just because they're not what I'm used to, I don't know!
Regarding 'Admin Colour Scheme' - changing it to 'Dashboard Colour Scheme' doesn't seem right to me. The term 'Dashboard' is used in WP to refer exclusively to the 'home page' of the admin area. The term 'admin' is used to refer to the whole thing. If you are going to make these substitutions then it should (in my opinion) be 'Administration Colour Scheme', in line with all the other changes you've made.
I would also argue that 'Administration Area' sounds a little better than 'Administration'. Apart from anything else, the term 'administration' refers to a process rather than a place where the process is done. So if you're making the change to remove the slight ambiguity of 'admin', don't make it worse by using 'administration' to mean something it doesn't! :-p
comment:7
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markmcwilliams
— 3 years ago
I'm quite happy either way, I only gave the patch a little refresh, and made a couple of changes Nacin suggested. At the end of the day, it doesn't need to be included, and the developers can in theory make the final decision (after speaking to Jane yes, it has to do with UX and that!)
What I updated, I did how I felt it sounded best to myself I suppose? :P
comment:8
caesarsgrunt
— 3 years ago
- Keywords ux-feedback added
In the end I'm sure I could learn to live with it either way too. It's a case of what colour the bike shed is, really...
That said, I do maintain that if this goes ahead then 'administration' should not be use on its own to refer to the admin area, because that is not what the word means. 'Administration area' would be fine, if a little cumbersome.
comment:9
JohnONolan
— 3 years ago
Agree with caesargrunt on all counts.
comment:10
nacin
— 3 years ago
I don't mind 'admin' as is. I have a feeling a better way to solve this ticket will be to add translator's comments where appropriate, that way you can tell the difference. But I think you probably can, anyway.
comment:11
jane
— 3 years ago
- Milestone changed from 3.1 to Future Release
Too late in the cycle to go messing with this... documentation would all be out of date. Let's hold off and revisit with 3.2.
comment:12
SergeyBiryukov
— 7 months ago
- Component changed from UI to Text Changes
Sounds good, but let's wait for 3.1. We need to limit string changes for 3.0.