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Opened 3 years ago

Last modified 7 months ago

#13433 new enhancement

Replace "admin" with "administrator" or "administration"

Reported by: dimadin Owned by:
Priority: normal Milestone: Future Release
Component: Text Changes Version: 3.0
Severity: normal Keywords: has-patch gsoc ux-feedback
Cc: tracs@…, wojtek.szkutnik@…

Description

Since "administrator" is right name for user who administrates site, we should replace occurences of "admin" because of consistency and because it adds confusion since "admin" is also used instead of "administration".

You can easily see current 17 occurences by searching on GlotPress (eg. http://tinyurl.com/39m7xeh)

Attachments (2)

13433.diff (9.4 KB) - added by wojtek.szkutnik 3 years ago.
13433.2.diff (10.0 KB) - added by markmcwilliams 3 years ago.
refreshed patch

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Change History (14)

comment:1 dimadin3 years ago

  • Summary changed from Replace "admin" with "administrator" or "admin" to Replace "admin" with "administrator" or "administration"

comment:2 ryan3 years ago

  • Milestone changed from 3.0 to 3.1

Sounds good, but let's wait for 3.1. We need to limit string changes for 3.0.

wojtek.szkutnik3 years ago

comment:3 wojtek.szkutnik3 years ago

  • Cc wojtek.szkutnik@… added
  • Keywords has-patch gsoc added

comment:4 follow-up: nacin3 years ago

  • Milestone changed from Awaiting Triage to 3.1

"Administrator Color Scheme" => "Dashboard Color Scheme", I'd think. "Administration" doesn't sound right.

"Site administrator only" on themes.php should be "Super"...

Patch probably needs refresh.

markmcwilliams3 years ago

refreshed patch

comment:5 in reply to: ↑ 4 markmcwilliams3 years ago

Made the suggested change to Dashboard, I agree, Administration doesn't sounds quite right. Changed it from site to super, and also refreshed the patch looking in all the same files in the first patch! :)

comment:6 follow-up: caesarsgrunt3 years ago

You probably ought to consult with Jane before making this change.

I realise it looks like a minor thing, but the term 'admin' has always been used throughout the admin and in all documentation etc (maybe with a few minor exceptions) and so to suddenly change to 'administrator' and 'administration' is quite drastic.

Also, I personally find the new strings more confusing. I was never confused by 'admin', whereas to me at least, some of these strings mean a slightly different thing when admin is replaced by administration or administrator, and a lot of them sound a little odd to me. Maybe just because they're not what I'm used to, I don't know!

Regarding 'Admin Colour Scheme' - changing it to 'Dashboard Colour Scheme' doesn't seem right to me. The term 'Dashboard' is used in WP to refer exclusively to the 'home page' of the admin area. The term 'admin' is used to refer to the whole thing. If you are going to make these substitutions then it should (in my opinion) be 'Administration Colour Scheme', in line with all the other changes you've made.

I would also argue that 'Administration Area' sounds a little better than 'Administration'. Apart from anything else, the term 'administration' refers to a process rather than a place where the process is done. So if you're making the change to remove the slight ambiguity of 'admin', don't make it worse by using 'administration' to mean something it doesn't! :-p

comment:7 in reply to: ↑ 6 markmcwilliams3 years ago

I'm quite happy either way, I only gave the patch a little refresh, and made a couple of changes Nacin suggested. At the end of the day, it doesn't need to be included, and the developers can in theory make the final decision (after speaking to Jane yes, it has to do with UX and that!)

What I updated, I did how I felt it sounded best to myself I suppose? :P

comment:8 caesarsgrunt3 years ago

  • Keywords ux-feedback added

In the end I'm sure I could learn to live with it either way too. It's a case of what colour the bike shed is, really...

That said, I do maintain that if this goes ahead then 'administration' should not be use on its own to refer to the admin area, because that is not what the word means. 'Administration area' would be fine, if a little cumbersome.

comment:9 JohnONolan3 years ago

Agree with caesargrunt on all counts.

comment:10 nacin3 years ago

I don't mind 'admin' as is. I have a feeling a better way to solve this ticket will be to add translator's comments where appropriate, that way you can tell the difference. But I think you probably can, anyway.

comment:11 jane3 years ago

  • Milestone changed from 3.1 to Future Release

Too late in the cycle to go messing with this... documentation would all be out of date. Let's hold off and revisit with 3.2.

comment:12 SergeyBiryukov7 months ago

  • Component changed from UI to Text Changes
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