Confusion of WP admin Discussion settings

[Lorangeo]

On the "Settings>Discussion" page:

1) "Default article settings" should be replaced by "Default comment settings" (because these important settings do not only apply to posts (articles)), but also to pages!

2) "Allow people to post comments on new articles" should be replaced by:

--> "Allow people to post comments" (best option in my opinion)

or

--> "Allow people to post comments on new pages and posts"

Sorry if this is not the right place to make such suggestions.

Related: ticket:12991:22

Replying to Lorangeo:

"Allow people to post comments" (best option in my opinion)

This is inaccurate, because the setting will only apply to posts/pages/etc. made going forward. It does not apply the setting to items that are already published.

--> "Allow people to post comments on new pages and posts"

Also inaccurate - there can be (and are) post types beyond pages and posts. Attachments, for instance, or a custom post type.

Ok, maybe you have another suggestion?

I personally like chipbennett's suggestion:

Allow people to post comments on:       [ ] Posts
                                        [ ] Pages
                                        [ ] Attachments

Allow link notifications 
(pingbacks/trackbacks) on:              [ ] Posts
                                        [ ] Pages
                                        [ ] Attachments

Attempt to notify blogs linked to from: [ ] Posts
                                        [ ] Pages

But this segmented approach might be a next step.

For the present replacing "Default article settings" by "Default comment settings" and "Allow people to post comments on new articles" by "Allow people to post comments" (or maybe "Allow people to post comments on new contents") seems a logical and necessary fix that would be easy to implement.

Sorry for my limited English.

I don't have another suggestion, no. Only evaluating what is being suggested. The checkboxes from #12991 are a good idea, although I'd probably rather see it as a general setting with the ability to expand to see the more granular controls. As far as the text itself goes, "new content" seems reasonable enough to me. It doesn't tell the user what kinds of content actually accept comments, but neither does the current version.

Related: #22961

Let's not mix wrong text labels and feature requests. For now this topic should be about correcting wrong labels. And in fact: the actual descriptions are in parts misleading.

1.) I vote for labeling the first section sth. like Default comment presettings instead of "Default article settings", as SergeyBiryukov suggested, including maybe even a change to presetting, because it's about presettings which can be changed on an individual post before publishing it. Or General preselections? But I'm not a native speaker, the meaning should be simply correct.

2.) "Allow people to post comments on new articles" is really very confusing, as I can say from my own and my customers experience :-(
Not only for new articles and pages, even for attachments and custom post types you'll define the discussion activation here. So I vote for sth. like Preselect comment activation while creating new content.

3.) All mentioned articles within the first section should be discarded and replaced by sth. which is more true.