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Opened 14 years ago

Closed 13 years ago

#14719 closed defect (bug) (wontfix)

New plugin page on wordpress.org is missing the links to developer and plugin website.

Reported by: vteixeira's profile vteixeira Owned by:
Milestone: WordPress.org Priority: high
Severity: normal Version:
Component: WordPress.org Site Keywords:
Focuses: Cc:

Description

The new plugin page on wordpress.or is missing the links to developer and plugin website.

Change History (18)

#1 @vteixeira
14 years ago

  • Summary changed from New plugin page on wordpress.or is missing the links to developer and plugin website. to New plugin page on wordpress.org is missing the links to developer and plugin website.

#2 @scribu
14 years ago

  • Milestone changed from Awaiting Review to WordPress.org site

#3 @Otto42
14 years ago

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from new to closed

Not a bug, Matt told me to remove them.

#4 follow-up: @Denis-de-Bernardy
14 years ago

  • Priority changed from normal to high
  • Resolution wontfix deleted
  • Severity changed from normal to major
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

Oh really? How much more insulting will WordPress become towards plugin devs?

#5 @Otto42
14 years ago

  • Resolution set to invalid
  • Severity changed from major to normal
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

The design is not final. We're playing with it, trying to figure out what works better. Please, email me directly with any concerns instead of using trac as some kind of debate center, eh?

#6 in reply to: ↑ 4 ; follow-up: @scribu
14 years ago

Kind of offtopic:

Replying to Denis-de-Bernardy:

Oh really? How much more insulting will WordPress become towards plugin devs?

What's with the inflammatory tone? as if WP already is insulting towards plugin devs, which is epically untrue.

#7 in reply to: ↑ 6 @Denis-de-Bernardy
14 years ago

  • Resolution invalid deleted
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

Replying to scribu:

Kind of offtopic:

Replying to Denis-de-Bernardy:

Oh really? How much more insulting will WordPress become towards plugin devs?

What's with the inflammatory tone? as if WP already is insulting towards plugin devs, which is epically untrue.

You have to be kidding me...

Someone contributes a patch to WP. It gets ignored from lack of a better option.

Someone raises a ticket in WP suggesting that there are fatal errors when you try to integrate the bloody mess with something else. It gets closed as won't fixed.

As if this wasn't bad enough, if someone creates a plugin he doesn't even get a link to own site? I should not feel insulted by that? Not even any kind of thank you? Who are you trying to kid here?

#8 follow-up: @Otto42
14 years ago

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

Denis: What part of "not final" was unclear?

This is inappropriate for trac. Take it to a mailing list or the forums or something.

#9 in reply to: ↑ 8 ; follow-up: @Denis-de-Bernardy
14 years ago

  • Resolution wontfix deleted
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

Replying to Otto42:

Denis: What part of "not final" was unclear?

The part that says the ticket got closed.

This is inappropriate for trac. Take it to a mailing list or the forums or something.

Sorry, but I know better. Nothing ever gets decided in those two venues. People talk and never act.

And that is not to mention the issues I raised in my two last wp-devel comments:

http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/new-for-extendplugins-if-a-user-clicks/comment-page-1/#comment-9950

http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/new-for-extendplugins-if-a-user-clicks/comment-page-1/#comment-9949

#10 in reply to: ↑ 9 ; follow-up: @Otto42
14 years ago

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

Replying to Denis-de-Bernardy:

This is inappropriate for trac. Take it to a mailing list or the forums or something.

Sorry, but I know better. Nothing ever gets decided in those two venues. People talk and never act.

Yes, however, I was not doing this back then. Now I am. A discussion among people who don't read trac would be more beneficial and inclusive. And I do read those venues.

And that is not to mention the issues I raised in my two last wp-devel comments:

Neither of which are relevant to this ticket or appropriate for discussion here.

I will not be responding here again, nor reading it. If you want to get something done, pick the appropriate place to have a discussion on the topic.

#11 @scribu
14 years ago

Replying to Denis-de-Bernardy:

What's with the inflammatory tone? as if WP already is insulting towards plugin devs, which is epically untrue.

You have to be kidding me...

Someone contributes a patch to WP. It gets ignored from lack of a better option.

Someone raises a ticket in WP suggesting that there are fatal errors when you try to integrate the bloody mess with something else. It gets closed as won't fixed.

I don't see how that's relevant. Plugin developers aren't discriminated against. Everyone's patches get ignored.

'nuf said.

#12 in reply to: ↑ 10 @Denis-de-Bernardy
14 years ago

  • Resolution wontfix deleted
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

Wrong answer. You're closing this as wontfix, which contradicts your point entirely.

#13 @scribu
14 years ago

  • Keywords close added

Matt explained why the links are gone:

Plugin links are a little redundant now that each plugin has a page on the directory. If someone has a page on their own site as well easy (and more effective) to link from the main content area.

Author links only work for single-author plugins, for multiple author plugins (which we want to encourage) it’s broken so better to build it off the commit list, so each author gets credit.

http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/new-for-extendplugins-if-a-user-clicks/comment-page-1/#comment-9984

#14 @vteixeira
14 years ago

  • Cc vteixeira added
  • Keywords close removed

Well, the fact is:

When I'm searching for a plugin and I find one that is new or that I never heard about THE FIRST thing I do is going to the plugin website where I can usually read a blog post about the plugin, read comments by other people that uses the plugin and get docs and everything related to the plugin.
It's the only way to know if some people are facing problems with the plugin before you have to install it yourself and brake your website.

If you don't know this there are communities around those plugins, there are conversations taking place on the plugins website.

If there's no link how can I get the docs, view the plugin support forum (if there's one)...

Example: I just found a new plugin on the directory today and I want to know who made it and want to visit the plugin and the developers site. There's no link anywhere!!! View it for yourself: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/fast-image-adder/

Even for popular plugins like contact form 7 and wp pagenavi I can't find the plugins site.
On Lester Chan profile there's the url for his website but I don't get a link for each plugins page. One would need to search for it on the developers website or on google.

When everybody talks about making things more usable, decreasing the number of clicks needed to perform some action you are just taking the opposite approach.

If you remove the link to the plugin site you are going to kill those communities!

That's it!

Otto: I think this is the appropriate place for this kind of discussion (actually this discussion should not exist in the first place) because there's a section for WordPress.org bugs, enhancements and feature requests right here on the trac.
Why this is not the right place? Do you think a mailing list is best?
On 2010 I should be using a mailing list to communicate?

#15 @scribu
14 years ago

If there's no link how can I get the docs, view the plugin support forum (if there's one)...

Every plugin already has a dedicated support forum right here on wp.org.

More to the point, as Matt said, plugin authors can add links to the plugin site directly in the content area. This is what I've done on all my plugins (including WP-PageNavi):

Links: Demo | Plugin News | Translating

http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-pagenavi/

#16 @Otto42
13 years ago

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

#17 @hakre
13 years ago

  • Resolution wontfix deleted
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

Seriously?

#18 @Otto42
13 years ago

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

Yes. Seriously.

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