Make WordPress Core

Opened 12 years ago

Last modified 4 years ago

#18400 new enhancement

Suggested label change for "Stick this post to the front page"

Reported by: designsimply's profile designsimply Owned by:
Milestone: Future Release Priority: normal
Severity: normal Version:
Component: Posts, Post Types Keywords: has-patch 2nd-opinion
Focuses: administration, ui-copy Cc:

Description

In the Publish meta box, it would be more clear to say "Stick this post to the top of the front page" compared to saying "Stick this post to the front page".

Attachments (4)

18400.diff (1.5 KB) - added by designsimply 12 years ago.
18400.1.diff (1.5 KB) - added by designsimply 12 years ago.
18400.2.diff (1.6 KB) - added by danielbachhuber 10 years ago.
Refresh patch against trunk
18400.3.diff (1.6 KB) - added by kellenmace 6 years ago.
Use "Stick this post to the posts page" wording

Download all attachments as: .zip

Change History (22)

@designsimply
12 years ago

#1 @ocean90
12 years ago

I prefer the same label as we use in Quick Edit "Make this post sticky". Sticky posts aren't always on front page, even less on top.

Last edited 12 years ago by ocean90 (previous) (diff)

#2 @danielbachhuber
12 years ago

  • Cc d@… added

#3 @designsimply
12 years ago

  • Keywords ui-feedback removed

Thanks. Re-patched with 18400.1.diff.

#4 @nacin
12 years ago

  • Keywords ux-feedback added

#5 @SergeyBiryukov
11 years ago

  • Component changed from UI to Text Changes

@danielbachhuber
10 years ago

Refresh patch against trunk

#6 @danielbachhuber
10 years ago

  • Keywords commit added; ux-feedback removed
  • Milestone changed from Awaiting Review to 3.9

This ticket was mentioned in IRC in #wordpress-dev by helen. View the logs.


10 years ago

#8 follow-up: @nacin
10 years ago

  • Keywords 2nd-opinion added; commit removed

The problem with "Make this post sticky" is it doesn't describe what "sticky" means. I understand the brevity in Quick Edit, but it should probably be descriptive when editing a post. Otherwise it lacks any meaning for the user.

"Stick this post to the front page" seems OK to me as-is. It is a good balance of descriptiveness and clarity. "Stick this post to the top of the front page" feels less accurate as you can have multiple sticky posts (it also causes awkward text wrapping in English). Also, sticky posts *are* always on the front page, so that part isn't inaccurate either. Even if posts_per_page is 10, if you have 11 sticky posts, they'll all display.

#9 @nacin
10 years ago

designsimply, I'm guessing this came out of seeing some feedback from users, though it was pretty easy for ocean90 to pivot things to another string, so I'm not sure :-)

I wouldn't mind considering other variants; I'm just not sure anything so far proposed is any better. While some users might be less confused with "to the top", other users might be more confused.

#10 @nacin
10 years ago

  • Milestone changed from 3.9 to Future Release

Getting this out of 3.9; we can bring it back in if there is a consensus for changing it.

#11 in reply to: ↑ 8 @celloexpressions
10 years ago

Replying to nacin:

Also, sticky posts *are* always on the front page, so that part isn't inaccurate either. Even if posts_per_page is 10, if you have 11 sticky posts, they'll all display.

I think the issue here is that the user may have a static front page, in which case "Stick this post to the front page" is inaccurate. Themes also do special things with sticky posts sometimes (Twenty Fourteen, even), so we should keep it as generic as possible. I would call that an edge case, but the default theme does it out-of-the-box (where, incidentally, the "front page" statement is valid). In fact the best solution might be to lose some clarity and go with "Make this post sticky", since "sticky" can mean different things in different themes (although the general idea is almost always the same).

#12 @designsimply
10 years ago

designsimply, I'm guessing this came out of seeing some feedback from users

Correct.

I think the issue here is that the user may have a static front page, in which case "Stick this post to the front page" is inaccurate.

Correct again.

#13 @helen
9 years ago

#30248 was marked as a duplicate.

#14 @philiparthurmoore
9 years ago

In #30248 I've proposed to change "front" to "home", since front is incorrect. At a minimum I'd advocate for this change because it's in line with how themes treat the terms "home" and "front". As has been mentioned above, front as it's used now is incorrect when a static front page is used. Consistency here with the Customizer and other WordPress admin areas would be nice.

#15 @chriscct7
8 years ago

  • Focuses administration added
  • Severity changed from minor to normal

#16 @kellenmace
6 years ago

I'm proposing we change this wording on the single post edit screen from "Stick this post to the front page" to "Stick this post to the posts page".

Reasons why:

  1. When users are using a static front page and a different page for their posts, the current "Stick this post to the front page" wording is inaccurate and misleading.
  2. The "front" and "home" terms can be confusing to end users, as noted by others on this ticket. We can avoid that confusion altogether by referring to it as the "posts page" instead.
  3. Using "posts page" makes this label consistent with the "— Posts Page" label that is applied to that page on the Pages edit.php screen.

https://cldup.com/KMnnBxaFbB-300x300.png

@kellenmace
6 years ago

Use "Stick this post to the posts page" wording

#18 @garrett-eclipse
4 years ago

  • Component changed from Text Changes to Posts, Post Types
  • Focuses ui-copy added
Note: See TracTickets for help on using tickets.