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Opened 4 years ago

Last modified 7 months ago

#18400 new enhancement

Suggested label change for "Stick this post to the front page"

Reported by: designsimply Owned by:
Milestone: Future Release Priority: normal
Severity: minor Version:
Component: Text Changes Keywords: has-patch 2nd-opinion
Focuses: Cc:

Description

In the Publish meta box, it would be more clear to say "Stick this post to the top of the front page" compared to saying "Stick this post to the front page".

Attachments (3)

18400.diff (1.5 KB) - added by designsimply 4 years ago.
18400.1.diff (1.5 KB) - added by designsimply 4 years ago.
18400.2.diff (1.6 KB) - added by danielbachhuber 15 months ago.
Refresh patch against trunk

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Change History (17)

@designsimply4 years ago

comment:1 @ocean904 years ago

I prefere the same label as we use in Quick Edit "Make this post sticky". Sticky posts aren't always on front page, even less on top.

Version 0, edited 4 years ago by ocean90 (next)

comment:2 @danielbachhuber4 years ago

  • Cc d@… added

@designsimply4 years ago

comment:3 @designsimply4 years ago

  • Keywords ui-feedback removed

Thanks. Re-patched with 18400.1.diff.

comment:4 @nacin4 years ago

  • Keywords ux-feedback added

comment:5 @SergeyBiryukov3 years ago

  • Component changed from UI to Text Changes

@danielbachhuber15 months ago

Refresh patch against trunk

comment:6 @danielbachhuber15 months ago

  • Keywords commit added; ux-feedback removed
  • Milestone changed from Awaiting Review to 3.9

comment:7 @ircbot15 months ago

This ticket was mentioned in IRC in #wordpress-dev by helen. View the logs.

comment:8 follow-up: @nacin15 months ago

  • Keywords 2nd-opinion added; commit removed

The problem with "Make this post sticky" is it doesn't describe what "sticky" means. I understand the brevity in Quick Edit, but it should probably be descriptive when editing a post. Otherwise it lacks any meaning for the user.

"Stick this post to the front page" seems OK to me as-is. It is a good balance of descriptiveness and clarity. "Stick this post to the top of the front page" feels less accurate as you can have multiple sticky posts (it also causes awkward text wrapping in English). Also, sticky posts *are* always on the front page, so that part isn't inaccurate either. Even if posts_per_page is 10, if you have 11 sticky posts, they'll all display.

comment:9 @nacin15 months ago

designsimply, I'm guessing this came out of seeing some feedback from users, though it was pretty easy for ocean90 to pivot things to another string, so I'm not sure :-)

I wouldn't mind considering other variants; I'm just not sure anything so far proposed is any better. While some users might be less confused with "to the top", other users might be more confused.

comment:10 @nacin15 months ago

  • Milestone changed from 3.9 to Future Release

Getting this out of 3.9; we can bring it back in if there is a consensus for changing it.

comment:11 in reply to: ↑ 8 @celloexpressions15 months ago

Replying to nacin:

Also, sticky posts *are* always on the front page, so that part isn't inaccurate either. Even if posts_per_page is 10, if you have 11 sticky posts, they'll all display.

I think the issue here is that the user may have a static front page, in which case "Stick this post to the front page" is inaccurate. Themes also do special things with sticky posts sometimes (Twenty Fourteen, even), so we should keep it as generic as possible. I would call that an edge case, but the default theme does it out-of-the-box (where, incidentally, the "front page" statement is valid). In fact the best solution might be to lose some clarity and go with "Make this post sticky", since "sticky" can mean different things in different themes (although the general idea is almost always the same).

comment:12 @designsimply15 months ago

designsimply, I'm guessing this came out of seeing some feedback from users

Correct.

I think the issue here is that the user may have a static front page, in which case "Stick this post to the front page" is inaccurate.

Correct again.

comment:13 @helen7 months ago

#30248 was marked as a duplicate.

comment:14 @philiparthurmoore7 months ago

In #30248 I've proposed to change "front" to "home", since front is incorrect. At a minimum I'd advocate for this change because it's in line with how themes treat the terms "home" and "front". As has been mentioned above, front as it's used now is incorrect when a static front page is used. Consistency here with the Customizer and other WordPress admin areas would be nice.

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