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Opened 3 years ago

Last modified 7 months ago

#18552 new enhancement

"Just another WordPress site" might be seen as dimissive to users

Reported by: RanYanivHartstein Owned by:
Milestone: Awaiting Review Priority: low
Severity: trivial Version: 3.2.1
Component: Text Changes Keywords: has-patch ux-feedback 2nd-opinion
Focuses: Cc:

Description

The default tagline on all new WordPress sites is "Just another WordPress site".

This is obviously written in good spirit, and meant to encourage users to change their tagline. But not all users appreciate the humor. Some might feel it dismisses them and their sites, and even if it does get them to change the title, it leaves a bad taste.

I suggest we change this to "Another great WordPress site", "Another fine WordPress site", etc.

Attachments (2)

18552.diff (598 bytes) - added by RyanMurphy 2 years ago.
Patch with Matt's wording
18552.1.diff (575 bytes) - added by ericlewis 7 months ago.

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Change History (18)

comment:1 follow-ups: jane3 years ago

  • Component changed from General to UI
  • Priority changed from normal to low
  • Severity changed from normal to trivial
  • Type changed from defect (bug) to enhancement
  • Version set to 3.2.1

I think maybe the tone doesn't come across right for you. I never saw it as being a push to change to change the tagline (though I'm in favor of updating it, or even doing rotating taglines), but as a carryover of the casual tone Howdy and some of our other text tries to convey. Saying it is offensive seems like a pretty aggressive statement.

comment:2 in reply to: ↑ 1 RanYanivHartstein3 years ago

Replying to jane:

I think maybe the tone doesn't come across right for you.

Exactly - it doesn't come across for me. I love the casual "Howdy" tone, but I don't see this as part of it. This is just rude :)

comment:3 RanYanivHartstein3 years ago

  • Summary changed from Just another WordPress site" is offensive to users to Just another WordPress site" might be seen as dimissive to users

comment:4 in reply to: ↑ 1 RanYanivHartstein3 years ago

Replying to jane:

Saying it is offensive seems like a pretty aggressive statement.

Thanks for pointing this out - I changed the title.

comment:5 RanYanivHartstein3 years ago

  • Summary changed from Just another WordPress site" might be seen as dimissive to users to "Just another WordPress site" might be seen as dimissive to users

comment:6 andrewryno3 years ago

I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but I know it's been brought up before. What about dropping the default tagline by default? Too many people never bother to change it because they simply don't know they have the option. 136,000,000 results for the exact phrase on Google:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22just+another+wordpress+site%22

Related to this opinion: #6479

Last edited 3 years ago by andrewryno (previous) (diff)

comment:7 RyanMurphy3 years ago

Just posted a patch on #6479 that makes the tagline an install time option and sets the default tagline to (i.e. none).

comment:8 waclawjacek2 years ago

I like RanYanivHartstein's idea more - change the default tagline to "Another fine WordPress site" or something similar. Making it an install time option, thus having to set more things at install time, could be confusing at time of a first install, when one doesn't yet know what the slogan is in practice and might set it to none, not realising they have the option to put some text next to their site's title in some themes.

comment:9 youthgas2 years ago

Or you can go with something more whimsical, like "From us, to you. With WordPress." or "WordPress - helping the world talk." - that kind of vibe.

comment:10 follow-up: jane2 years ago

Making it more positive wouldn't be bad.

"Not just another WordPress site!"

Props @matt for the suggestion. :)

RyanMurphy2 years ago

Patch with Matt's wording

comment:11 RyanMurphy2 years ago

  • Keywords has-patch added

Attached patch changes it to Matt's wording.

comment:12 SergeyBiryukov17 months ago

  • Component changed from UI to Text Changes

comment:14 in reply to: ↑ 10 ericlewis7 months ago

Replying to jane:

Making it more positive wouldn't be bad.

"Not just another WordPress site!"

Props @matt for the suggestion. :)

I agree a positive wouldn't be bad, however, this sounds a bit quirky and opinionated.

It implies there is a culture around WordPress being of subpar quality in mass quantity, of which your blog is not a part of. Your blog somehow is a cut above the rest. Although ironically, this will be the tagline for every new WP install, and seemingly every WordPress site will be better than that other blob of mass produced WordPress installs.

Let's leave this suggestion and move on to a basic, positive message.

I just came across WordPress.com's choice "A fine WordPress.com site," which I was pleased with. It's straight-forward, positive, and leaves the relation of your site to the greater WordPress ecosystem. We can modify it to "A fine WordPress site" for .org use.

Last edited 7 months ago by ericlewis (previous) (diff)

ericlewis7 months ago

comment:15 ericlewis7 months ago

in attachment:18552.1.diff, "A fine WordPress site" for the default tagline.

comment:16 ericlewis7 months ago

  • Keywords ux-feedback 2nd-opinion added
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