Visual content editor "separator" and "|" icons/spacing

[josh401]

This ticket is somewhat directed toward @azaozz, as I know he is very familiar with the tinymce content editor.

It seems in the latest version 3.5.1, the separator is no longer working in the visual content editor. The same goes for the "|" symbol. This can be seen using either Andrew's Tinymce Advanced plugin, or my Ultimate Tinymce plugin. Additionally, using Andrew's Advanced Configuration plugin, it appears the separators are no longer working.

I just noticed this issue, however I noticed extensive changes were made in WP 3.5 on the content editor. I would guess with 99% certainty this issue is also in 3.5. I know this was not an issue with WP 3.4.2.

A note perhaps worth mentioning is the spacers do still appear to work on the tinymce site:
​http://www.tinymce.com/tryit/full.php

Is this maybe a "cost" of using the new visual interface?

Thank you.

[nacin]

In 3.5 we decided to strip out separators. I think this was done by simply disabling them, rather than removing them from the core button definitions.

[josh401]

Thanks Andrew,

Were there any factors which affected performance? Is it possible we might see separators return in a near-future release?

Having developed a few plugins centered around the tinymce content editor, I have developed quite a following of WP users. There have been a few which have noticed this spacing removal. I would be grateful for any information I can use to pass along to them. Thank you.

[nacin]

Replying to josh401:

Thanks Andrew,

Were there any factors which affected performance? Is it possible we might see separators return in a near-future release?

The consideration was both UI and UX. Separators (as they were used in core) did not seem to help users, especially after the design change (dropping borders to make the screen feel lighter) made them non-obvious. It looked like buttons were simply aligned terribly, rather than being deliberately broken into groups. That ticket was #15986.

[josh401]

especially after the design change (dropping borders to make the screen feel lighter) made them non-obvious.

I completely understand, and appreciate you taking the time to find that thread. I guess I'm on the other side of the fence, since I did view them as a benefit to the layout. However, I did not get a chance to view them under the new UI.

I suppose this is resolved, however I would certainly not be opposed to reopening the discussion regarding the benefits of separators.

Again, thank you for your time.

[azaozz]

Yes, as @nacin stated above in the new toolbar design the separators were looking out of place. They are disabled in ​the css and removed from the default buttons definitions. It is quite easy to re-enable them, however the buttons would look misaligned.

[SergeyBiryukov]

Replying to nacin:

That ticket was #15986.

That's for 3.2. For 3.5, it was #18141.