Firefox uses WP emoji for smileys but the native for frowneys

[saracannon]

When "Convert emoticons like :-) and :-P to graphics on display" is checked, firefox converts the smilely but uses the native for the frowneys

[saracannon]

emoji fix smileys

[saracannon]

same fix for #31709

[saracannon]

with patch

[saracannon]

in firefox after the patch is applied, the emoji's aren't lined completely up but that is a FF issue not a WP issue.

[nacin]

So, yeah, this is because there's no good translation for :) into emoji — specifically, a smile with a closed mouth.

This is also why Slack calls this particular :) a :simple_smile: — it's their own invention.

I don't think we can or should do anything here. If you use actual emoji characters, you won't even have the opportunity to insert the :) smiley.

[iseulde]

Replying to nacin:

So, yeah, this is because there's no good translation for :) into emoji — specifically, a smile with a closed mouth.

In 4.1 the smiley has an open mouth, but I agree this is not ideal. I see a few applications converting them to

[iseulde]

Great, Trac just cut off my comment on the first emoji.

[iseulde]

Replying to nacin:

So, yeah, this is because there's no good translation for :) into emoji — specifically, a smile with a closed mouth.

In 4.1 the smiley has an open mouth, but I agree this is not ideal. I see a few applications converting them to 1F60A: Smiling Face with Smiling Eyes (e.g. FB Messenger), or the emoji ​variant of ☺ (263A: White Smiling Face). The last one is what we should use if OS X and Twemoji didn't decide to make the smiley so ​blushy... That does not look like a good representation of the emoji variant of Smiling Face.

So there is a smile with a closed mouth. And that's probably what the unicode consortium will tell you?

Also, for the frowneys we currently use 1F626: Frowning Face with Open Mouth, which has an open mouth by definition, so that's not right either. Shouldn't we be using the emoji variant of ☹ (2639: White Frowning Face)? Unfortunately Twemoji does not replace the emoji variant (not sure why, because it does replace the "White Smiling Face" variant).

Reopening because I think this needs some more investigation.

Note: I only added the text variants because Trac removes them.

[iseulde]

WHITE SMILING FACE emoji style: ​http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/StandardizedVariants.html

[iseulde]

So there is no standardised emoji style variant of White Frowning Face, which is why Twemoji does not replace it, but there is for White Smiling Face (263A FE0F), which, according to them, should look like this: ​http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/varglyph?24-263A-FE0F.

[iseulde]

Filed an issue for Twemoji: ​https://github.com/twitter/twemoji/issues/58.

Additionally there is SLIGHTLY FROWNING FACE and SLIGHTLY SMILING FACE, which we could use for this too. See ​http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F600.pdf. Unfortunately Twemoji does not convert those either.

[iseulde]

1F641 and 1F642 respectively.

[helen]

So what's going on here? Do we need to make any changes for 4.2, for the future, or just waiting on Twemoji?

[pento]

We're waiting for Twemoji. All of the files are hosted on WordPress.org, so won't be a problem to update after 4.2 is released.

[iseulde]

Replying to pento:

We're waiting for Twemoji. All of the files are hosted on WordPress.org, so won't be a problem to update after 4.2 is released.

We would still need to update $wpsmiliestrans?

[iseulde]

In 36336:

Emoji: adjust $wpsmiliestrans

Swap simple-smile.png with SLIGHTLY SMILING FACE
and frownie.png with SLIGHTLY FROWNING FACE

Fixes #31710.