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Opened 4 years ago

Last modified 6 months ago

#32998 new enhancement

What's a weblog?

Reported by: johnjamesjacoby Owned by:
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Description

Just kidding. Kind of.

In options-discussion.php is a string which seems just out-of-date enough to warrant a refresh:

An avatar is an image that follows you from weblog to weblog appearing beside your name when you comment on avatar enabled sites. Here you can enable the display of avatars for people who comment on your site.

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32998.01.patch (841 bytes) - added by johnjamesjacoby 4 years ago.
First pass recommendation, attempting to be considerate of third party functionality

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Change History (7)

@johnjamesjacoby
4 years ago

First pass recommendation, attempting to be considerate of third party functionality

#1 @johnjamesjacoby
4 years ago

This is somewhat related to #31168. We can now be a bit more explicit about where administrators can expect to most likely see avatars, as they are no longer enabled on pages by default.

#2 @johnjamesjacoby
4 years ago

To save a click & grok, my grammatically deficient recommended updated text is:

An avatar is an image that follows you from website to website, often appearing beside your name in comments and blog posts. Here you can enable the display of avatars for registered users and other visitors who interact with this site.

#3 follow-up: @helen
4 years ago

I don't think it's accurate to say that an avatar (as opposed to gravatar) is something that follow you from website to website, also that fragment is pretty creepy. Never noticed it before.

#4 in reply to: ↑ 3 @johnjamesjacoby
4 years ago

Replying to helen:

I don't think it's accurate to say that an avatar (as opposed to gravatar) is something that follow you from website to website, also that fragment is pretty creepy. Never noticed it before.

I agree that it could be perceived as a bit spooky sounding, especially if someone is truly unfamiliar with avatars and Gravatar, which this message seems to be geared towards educating.

Because WordPress core does not allow registered users to upload their own avatars without the use of a plugin, and because get_avatar() attempts to find a Gravatar by default always, it's not an inaccurate statement even if the reality of it is creepy.

This string did originally make mention of Gravatar.com, but if my memory of the IRC logs from 2008 serves me right, it was altered to eliminate the jargon & confusion, and simultaneously remove the direct link to Gravatar.com which ultimately results in sign-ups to Automattic's WordPress.com product.

In BuddyPress, we moved away from the word "avatar" on anything that's user-facing, and switched to "photo" instead. We decided "Profile photo" and "Group photo" were more universally understood than expecting a developer or site administrator to explain to a client or community of users what an "avatar" was and why they shouldn't be afraid of it. I don't expect WordPress to go in this extreme of a direction, but figured it was pertinent information.

WordPress could also just eliminate this bit of helper text entirely, or tuck it up into the hidden "Help" section for someone to go stumble into if we're looking for a more elaborate solution (which I'm happy to patch up if that's the direction we think is the most agreeable.)

#5 @netweb
4 years ago

Suggestions attempting to removing the word follow for less creepiness:

  • An avatar is an image attached to your user profile that can be shared from website to website...
  • An avatar is an image attached to your user profile that is shared between websites...
  • An avatar is a user profile image shared between websites...

#6 @GaryJ
3 years ago

An avatar is a visual at-a-glance representation of you, across different websites.
or
An avatar is a visual representation of you, across different websites.

Two key words here:

  • "visual" - we may support screen readers, but the raison d'etre is that it's a graphical instance.
  • "representation" - it doesn't have to be a photo, or any likeness of a person - it could be a company logo - so don't focus on what may or may not in the avatar, but what it stands for - it represents (typically) a single person.

I'm not keen on the "follows", or "shared between websites" - the websites don't share it amongst themselves.

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