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Opened 8 years ago

Closed 7 years ago

#3756 closed enhancement (wontfix)

Default theme (Kubrick) should default to no pingbacks or comments on pages

Reported by: foolswisdom Owned by:
Milestone: Priority: low
Severity: minor Version:
Component: Administration Keywords:
Focuses: Cc:

Description

Default theme (Kubrick) should default to no pingbacks or comments on pages.
(as should most every theme)

I think that would meet most people's expectations. Consider why #3753 "Kubrick should allow comments for pages if check marked" was not reported previously.

Change History (13)

comment:1 follow-up: @andy8 years ago

Alternative: split the Discussion option into posts/pages.

comment:2 in reply to: ↑ 1 ; follow-up: @foolswisdom8 years ago

Replying to andy:

Alternative: split the Discussion option into posts/pages.

That would be nice, but how much pages are most people writing. Might be good to start life as a plugin so people don't have one more thing to consider.

comment:3 in reply to: ↑ 2 ; follow-up: @Coolkevman8 years ago

Replying to foolswisdom:

Replying to andy:

Alternative: split the Discussion option into posts/pages.

That would be nice, but how much pages are most people writing. Might be good to start life as a plugin so people don't have one more thing to consider.

Ok, so if I understand, you plan to delete in the 2.2.x branch the "Discussion" widget from the "Write Page" admin page.

Am I right ? If so, is this mean that I should write a plug-in to allow users to display comments and pings below pages content ?

comment:4 in reply to: ↑ 3 ; follow-ups: @foolswisdom8 years ago

Replying to Coolkevman:

Ok, so if I understand, you plan to delete in the 2.2.x branch the "Discussion" widget from the "Write Page" admin page.

No, I am not suggesting that anything be deleted from the write page. I am suggesting that a global setting to *globally* enable comments on pages, might best by done as a plugin initially.

comment:5 in reply to: ↑ 4 @Coolkevman8 years ago

Replying to foolswisdom:

No, I am not suggesting that anything be deleted from the write page. I am suggesting that a global setting to *globally* enable comments on pages, might best by done as a plugin initially.

Ok, I understand. Thanks !

comment:6 in reply to: ↑ 4 @masquerade8 years ago

Replying to foolswisdom:

Replying to Coolkevman:

Ok, so if I understand, you plan to delete in the 2.2.x branch the "Discussion" widget from the "Write Page" admin page.

No, I am not suggesting that anything be deleted from the write page. I am suggesting that a global setting to *globally* enable comments on pages, might best by done as a plugin initially.

I think, unfortunately for us and the users, its actually a bit late to change to making comments/crap on Pages an option, because so many themes have left it out. If it were to be an option, and a theme had left out the function to call the comment form, well, when someone enables it and goes looking for their comments they'll be wondering what's going on.

I don't think a plugin can possibly help here, unless its going to memorize the HTML structure of all the various themes and insert the comment stuff on the page where it would normally be, if that's even possible. Feasible? Doubt it.

I still like the idea, but how to implement it without generating many many headaches, I don't know :).

comment:7 @foolswisdom8 years ago

  • Milestone changed from 2.2 to 2.4

comment:8 @Coolkevman8 years ago

I was thinking about a way to make the transition smoother.

Here is the plan and goals for each Wordpress release:

  • Wordpress 2.3: review the code to make sure all newly created pages have pingbacks and comments set to False. Thanks to this we will have a consistent database.
  • Wordpress 2.4: allow pingbacks and comments on pages (= fix displaying in default theme, as decribed in #3753).

What do you think about this ?

comment:9 @spencerp8 years ago

I kind of agree with this whole thing. It's actually annoying to have to turn off comments and etc when creating a page. IMO, comments should be off by default while creating pages. Pages are there to be more professional and static feel. Not have comments load the page... like it's just some other blog post...

comment:10 @lloydbudd8 years ago

  • Milestone changed from 2.4 to 2.5

comment:11 @chaoticmortalcom7 years ago

  • Milestone changed from 2.6 to 2.7
  • Severity changed from normal to minor

Why is this needed?

Maybe a setting on the Options page, but a lot of people including me like the auto-comment and pingback.

comment:12 @pishmishy7 years ago

This issue doesn't appear to have been pushed much this year. I can see why some people might want pingbacks and comments disabled on pages but some of us also like to leave them enabled too. I'm going to recommend closing as wontfix.

comment:13 @mrmist7 years ago

  • Milestone 2.7 deleted
  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from new to closed

Seems to be going nowhere. There's all kinds of plugins and options to change the commentry stuff anyway.

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