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03/06/2017 02:38:08 AM (9 years ago)
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  • Ticket #40031, comment 21

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    11Replying to [comment:20 jdgrimes]:
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    3 > ''"I don't think that people see WordPress as a tool for managing comments that they post on other sites"''
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    5 Yes, I think you are correct, users don't currently think of WordPress for managing comments on other sites because, minimally, '''WordPress does not currently offer that feature'''. 
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    7 [http://www.statisticbrain.com/myers-briggs-statistics/ Most people] are [http://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/sensing-or-intuition.htm sensing], and only envision what ''"is"'', not what ''"is possible."''
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    9 But what if WordPress '''did''' offer the ability to track comments on other sites? My guess is that a good majority of users would want that.
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    11 > ''"but I suspect that unless and until web annotations really become popular, many average users would perceive this as wasting time to make WordPress a tool for something that 80% of users aren't going to use."''
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    13 You have just identified the chicken-and-egg problem. If WordPress does not offer the feature then people will never see WordPress as the tool for doing this.
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    15 As for ''"wasting time"'', just how much work do you think we are talking here? I purposely proposed something that would take very little time to implement.
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    17 > ''"I don't have the expectation that my blogging software ... will now handle storing my annotations for me."''
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    19 So I don't see WordPress as "my blogging software."  I see WordPress as the CMS that hosts my website, which happened to include blogging. Why would I want to have to add another website at another domain in order to control my content across the web? To me WordPress is obviously the tool I would want to use for this.
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    21 BTW, I am just presenting the opposite side of your argument. And one that I subscribe to, obviously.
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    23 > ''"because it would just be something totally distinct from what I am using WordPress to do."''
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    25 You are discussing features 2 and 3.  But what about feature 1? 
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    27 And remember that Web Annotations are much larger than comments. I proposed comments, but with this proposal there would be the infrastructure needed for plugins to support [https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/REC-annotation-model-20170223/#motivation-and-purpose all motivations and purposes] of annotations.
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    29 > ''"But I just don't think that that is going to be something that the average existing WordPress install is going to want."''
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    31 Question: For all these sites that you envision that would not want them, would they have comments using the WordPress comment system on their site?
     3I had a longer reply, but I cut it down to just this:
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    335> ''"most people would be using it to set up a traditional website, and other people would be using it to set up an annotation server, possibly more-or-less linked to a traditional website."''