Opened 3 years ago
Closed 3 months ago
#54265 closed enhancement (wontfix)
Updates UI: offer multiple variations of available updates nags to highlight older updates
Reported by: | jeherve | Owned by: | audrasjb |
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Milestone: | Priority: | normal | |
Severity: | normal | Version: | |
Component: | Upgrade/Install | Keywords: | shiny-updates needs-design |
Focuses: | ui, accessibility, administration | Cc: |
Description
Today, when an update is available for one of your plugins, for Core, or for a theme, the update notice is always the same:
- It uses a single and consistent color across the different wp-admin screens.
- The update messager remains the same until you've update the plugin/theme/core.
While that works, I wonder if there could be an opportunity to better emphasize the need to update things on your site.
Google Chrome comes to mind: its update warning is first green, then turns yellow and then red to highlight the need to update.
I wonder if WordPress could do something similar:
- If an update has been available for less than a month, have the notice displayed the way we display it today.
- If that update has been available for 2 to 3 months, have the notice turn more yellow / be more of a warning.
- If that update has been available for more than 3 months, have the notice turn red.
We may even want to be more granular there; core security releases would be red right away for example.
Somewhat related: #33374
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Change History (22)
#2
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3 years ago
Thanks for the ticket.
Self assigning, I'll raise it during the next #core-auto-updates meeting
#3
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3 years ago
- Focuses accessibility added
Small accessibility heads up: color is not enough, we need to modify the message too. Or at least to provide a screen reader text to pass the information in another way than the color :)
Adding accessibility
focus to make sure this point is taken into account.
#4
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3 years ago
- Keywords needs-design added
For some site admins this would probably just be seen as "noise", but I think for another class of admins this would be very useful.
That said, there will be some complications around implementing this:
- suppose a site is running v2.3 of
My Plugin
and the most recently released update is v2.4. What we'd really need to know is not when v2.4 was released, but when the version after v2.3 was released (e.g., v2.3.1) because what we'd want to convey is how out of date v2.3 is - the Updates API can only reliably give us info on when an update was released for things hosted on .org. Yes, premium plugins/themes could provide that info when they hook into the API, but we couldn't rely on them doing so. Which means we'd probably have to store a transient whenever an update becomes available (with the date/time that update was detected) and use that transient to determine that color coding
Also, I've added the needs-design
keyword.
#5
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3 years ago
Replying to pbiron:
For some site admins this would probably just be seen as "noise", but I think for another class of admins this would be very useful.
Yes, that can be tricky. Ideally, I think it should replace the existing notices, not add on top it. I see it as a redesign / refactor of the existing notices (which are always the same, regardless of how old / critical the update is) to provide additional information when possible.
- suppose a site is running v2.3 of
My Plugin
and the most recently released update is v2.4. What we'd really need to know is not when v2.4 was released, but when the version after v2.3 was released (e.g., v2.3.1) because what we'd want to convey is how out of date v2.3 is
Indeed. We'd have to start from the version installed on the site, not just the latest release of the plugin.
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3 years ago
Replying to audrasjb:
Small accessibility heads up: color is not enough, we need to modify the message too. Or at least to provide a screen reader text to pass the information in another way than the color :)
Yep, that's a good point.
An additional element that came up in discussions earlier today is that we could also leverage the Site Health component here. It should / could be possible to link from the update notice to the Site Health if folks want to find out more about available updates, and why their notices are green / yellow / red.
#7
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3 years ago
suppose a site is running v2.3 of My Plugin and the most recently released update is v2.4. What we'd really need to know is not when v2.4 was released, but when the version after v2.3 was released (e.g., v2.3.1) because what we'd want to convey is how out of date v2.3 is
My idea is to keep the date from the first update encountered.
Let's say I'm running a v2.3 and a 2.3.1 is available on 1st jan.
Then, 1 month later, still not updated, a new v2.3.2 is up.
I'll be warned to update from 2.3 to 2.3.2 with a timing of 1 month and not 1 day.
Only when I update, my counter for this plugin is reset.
Regarding the design, like @jeherve said, we have to use the current noise and not add more.
So, what do we already have:
1/ in adminbar with the "update" dashicon + total number of updates
2/ admin menu on index.php, entry "Updates" with the red bubble with the total number of updates
3/ admin menu on plugins.php, entry "Installed Plugins" with the red bubble with the number of updates
4/ admin menu on themes.php, entry "Themes" with the red bubble with the number of updates
5/ Notices with "WordPress vx.x.x is available! Please update now."
So we can reuse everything, we can just modify.
Here comes my ideas:
0/ First (yes I use 0 for first, I'm a dev you know), we could change the usual red color depending on how many days the update is available. Let's say "blue for < 7 days", "orange for < 21 days" and "red > 21 days", we can change that, not a big deal now.
1/ in adminbar the background of the menu entry could be colored like said in 0/ and a mouseover displays the most critical timing. Ho, the color will match the most critical update, so if I have a plugin update since 1 day and a core since 16, it will be orange. see 54265-adminbar.png
2,3,4/ change the color to match the most critical update timer
5/ More accurate message and color. see 54265-notices.png
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#12
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14 months ago
While the use of the text that indicates how long an update has been available is helpful, I don't think it directly correlates to a sense of urgency. For experienced users, the amount of time between updates is a well known factor, and can be quickly correlated to urgency; but for people who don't understand software cycles well, I don't think it's very useful.
For accessibility, the different colors should be explicitly associated with a word or icon, e.g. "Urgent:", "Warning:", etc.
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11 months ago
#14
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11 months ago
- Milestone Awaiting Review deleted
- Resolution set to invalid
- Status changed from assigned to closed
@audrasjb Do you intend to move this forward again at some point? I feel it's time to move this out of Awaiting Review; it's certainly had time to be considered, but no real movement.
#15
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8 months ago
- Milestone set to Awaiting Review
- Resolution invalid deleted
- Status changed from closed to reopened
Whoops; I didn't realize that I accidentally closed this issue.
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3 months ago
#19
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3 months ago
- Milestone Future Release deleted
- Resolution set to wontfix
- Status changed from reopened to closed
I don't actually think that the amount of time since an update became available is relevant to its importance.
A security update is extremely important whether it's 30 minutes old or 6 weeks; a minor update to a plugin may be unimportant no matter how long it's been. This change would create a false sense of urgency - or lack of urgency.
Given that this has had no movement in several years, I think we should close it. All updates should be treated as equally important, and it's up to the admin to determine their level of concern.
One suggestion by @sabernhardt is that it may be better to raise the warning to an error if an admin has previously ignored the nag; but it's debatable how valuable that is.
If somebody wishes to move this forward, feel free to comment and re-open.
Display of update notices in Google Chrome