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Opened 8 months ago

Last modified 7 weeks ago

#58010 new defect (bug)

Missing context for string in Events widget

Reported by: zodiac1978's profile zodiac1978 Owned by:
Milestone: 6.5 Priority: normal
Severity: normal Version:
Component: I18N Keywords: has-patch
Focuses: docs, administration Cc:

Description (last modified by SergeyBiryukov)

The German WordPress community is using its own Planet Feed, and therefore we have our own feed added via translation.

Here: https://translate.wordpress.org/projects/wp/dev/admin/de/default/?filters%5Bstatus%5D=either&filters%5Boriginal_id%5D=202147&filters%5Btranslation_id%5D=58867134

Reference: https://build.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/wp-admin/includes/dashboard.php?rev=55118&marks=1563#L1563

Now there is (besides the feed) also a link provided in https://build.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/wp-admin/includes/dashboard.php?rev=55118&marks=1554#L1554

But as our planet has no frontend output, it makes no sense to put the URL of it here.

We would like to add this explanation about the planet feed itself instead in there:
https://de.wordpress.org/der-planet-feed/

But now we are wondering how this link is used. I couldn't find any occurrence of this link in the dashboard markup besides the help tab.

In the help tab it makes sense to put this link in:
https://build.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/wp-admin/index.php?rev=55118&marks=98#L98

If the link is displayed somewhere else, we may need to add a context to distinguish between this place and the help tab in one of the strings.

Or is this link not used? Couldn't find it ...

Change History (18)

#1 @zodiac1978
8 months ago

Additionally, it seems that the link is not self explaining. Instead of a link to the planet website, I see some other links for some locales:
http://planet.wp-persian.com/
https://wpfr.net/ (not a planet website)
http://planet.wp-hazaragi.com/ (broken)
https://it.wordpress.org/ (locale website)
https://ja.wordpress.org/support/ (forums)
https://nl.wordpress.org/ (locale website)

And for the feed, some locales just use their blog from the Rosetta site (which obviously does not match the amount of links to the website from above):
https://af.wordpress.org/feed/
https://cy.wordpress.org/feed/
https://eo.wordpress.org/feed/
https://hu.wordpress.org/feed/
https://it.wordpress.org/feed
https://nl.wordpress.org/feed/
https://nl-be.wordpress.org/feed/
https://pl.wordpress.org/feed/
https://szl.wordpress.org/feed/

Japan is using the forums feed:
https://ja.wordpress.org/support/forums/feed

Only three (or four) seem to have an own planet feed (besides the German speaking locales, including Switzerland and Austria):
https://rss.wpfr.net/wp-planet (France)
https://feeds.feedburner.com/wpfr (Belgium)
http://feeds.feedburner.com/feedburner/cjgL (Occitan)
http://planet.wp-persian.com/feed (Persian)

Therefore, I recommend adding a translator comment for clarifying the usage of this link.

This ticket was mentioned in Slack in #polyglots by zodiac1978. View the logs.


8 months ago

#3 @SergeyBiryukov
8 months ago

  • Component changed from Administration to I18N
  • Focuses administration added
  • Milestone changed from Awaiting Review to 6.3

#4 follow-up: @audrasjb
8 months ago

  • Keywords needs-copy-review added

Indeed, it would be nice to clarify those two strings using translator comments.
I'd suggest the following:

Link to the Planet feed of the locale

Link to the News website of the locale

What do you think?

(needs copy review)

#5 in reply to: ↑ 4 @zodiac1978
8 months ago

Replying to audrasjb:

I'd suggest the following:

Link to the Planet feed of the locale

I'm not sure if "Planet" is self-explanatory enough for "aggregated news from the community". Maybe we should add a link to a page where this is explained (two spots for one feed, 3 for the other one - both shown in the dashboard widget).

Link to the News website of the locale

This is even more complex. The original link is showing the planet website (not wordpress.org/news/). "News website of the locale" is maybe leading to the wrong URL (like de.wordpress.org/news/) which is not meant here (but could be meant if the locale decided to opt-out from the US planet and just uses their Rosetta blog feed).

And additionally, the link is there twice. One occurrence is in the help tab, but I could not find the other place (it is used in code, but I did not find the output).

#6 @oglekler
5 months ago

  • Milestone changed from 6.3 to 6.4

Due to lack of patch and activity lately, I am moving this ticket to the 6.4 milestone.

#7 @oglekler
3 months ago

@fierevere and @tobifjellner can you please give it a thought 🙏

#8 @tobifjellner
3 months ago

For Swedish, we wanted to show our latest posts from sv.../news/ in the admin interface. A few years ago, the widget changed its code in such a way, that we had to create a special, indirect, feed with the second and third last post, excluding the latest one.

It would probably be valuable to figure out a more flexible way of setting up the widget feeds in localized versions of WordPress. For instance, allowing to indicate 1, 2, or 3 feeds, and respectively, how many posts to include from each feed.

And support/documentation links need to be separate and flexible.

This ticket was mentioned in PR #5346 on WordPress/wordpress-develop by @oglekler.


2 months ago
#9

  • Keywords has-patch added; needs-patch removed

Proposed comment for translators.

Trac ticket: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/58010

#10 @oglekler
2 months ago

@tobifjellner can you please create a new ticket with this issue you've mentioned? It looks like this ticket is purely about clearing the purpose of these links for translators.

#11 @tobifjellner
2 months ago

@oglekler Certainly yes. :)
#59491

Last edited 8 weeks ago by SergeyBiryukov (previous) (diff)

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2 months ago

#13 @oglekler
2 months ago

  • Focuses docs added

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2 months ago

#15 @nicolefurlan
2 months ago

I've dropped this ticket into #core-docs to hopefully get some eyes on these copy changes.

Last edited 2 months ago by nicolefurlan (previous) (diff)

#16 @SergeyBiryukov
8 weeks ago

  • Description modified (diff)

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7 weeks ago

#18 @nicolefurlan
7 weeks ago

  • Keywords needs-copy-review removed
  • Milestone changed from 6.4 to 6.5

This ticket was discussed in today's bug scrub.

Moving this to 6.5. If a committer with translation experience can pick it up, feel free to move it back to 6.4.

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