Opened 6 weeks ago
Last modified 4 weeks ago
#63397 new enhancement
Harder Deprecate ms-files.php
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Milestone: | 6.9 | Priority: | normal |
Severity: | normal | Version: | |
Component: | Site Health | Keywords: | has-patch 2nd-opinion |
Focuses: | multisite | Cc: |
Description
The legacy ms-files.php handler was introduced during the early days of WordPress Multisite to manage media uploads in a centralized way. However, it has been disabled by default since WordPress 3.5 in #19235.
One thing that #63285 shows is that few, if any, sites that still use this are testing pre-releases. In order to ensure that these sites have the best experience possible, it is time for a harder deprecation.
This deprecation should:
- Ensure stability for the networks that haven't been able to move off this legacy file handler.
- Help contributors to WordPress make decisions that support 1.
- Inform site owners so that they can migrate off this legacy file handler.
Change History (8)
This ticket was mentioned in Slack in #core by jorbin. View the logs.
6 weeks ago
This ticket was mentioned in PR #8775 on WordPress/wordpress-develop by @ankitkumarshah.
6 weeks ago
#3
- Keywords has-patch added
#4
follow-up:
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6 weeks ago
As one of the people who's still running hundreds of sites on 16 year old networks, I'll share some thoughts.
We'd love to move off of ms-files.php! However, I've investigated it several times over the years, and for large, established networks, it feels like a behemoth of an operation that I've been nervous to attempt (and up until 6.8, really had no reason to).
The deprecation patch points to this article (https://halfelf.org/2012/dumping-ms-files/), which is the most popular and one of the best guides out there, from an incredibly knowledgeable WordPress developer. And yet, even that contains:
"I got about 90% successful with it"
"For most sites, this worked, but in my later work, I determined that it actually wasn’t working. It was ignoring this. I don’t know why"
"Any weird problems? Yeah, two sites"
"I swear I have no idea why three sites got stuck"
I'm not opposed to the idea of ending support, but really want to emphasize @jorbin's point 1 about preparing some more polished information about how to do this successfully. Bonus points for a plugin that does any parts of it.
few, if any, sites that still use this are testing pre-releases.
I'm very active in testing and reporting issues with pre-releases. However, we're in the awkward spot where only our Production multisites still use ms-files.php. We moved hosts several years ago, and decided to start our dev/test environments on a clean slate (but still using the same codebase, of course). I didn't realize at the time that meant we'd be serving files completely differently and how important that would come to be. I imagine others who still use ms-files.php might be in a similar situation, contributing to the lack of sufficient testing.
If anyone working on this wants to connect more about this, feel free to reach out on WP Slack (@madtownlems)!
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6 weeks ago
In reviewing my notes, I found a few other resources that people may want to consult:
https://trepmal.com/2013/03/24/removing-ms-files-php-dependency/
https://github.com/trepmal/ms-files.php-removal-utility/blob/master/msfiles-removal-utility.php
https://anchor.host/removing-legacy-ms-files-php-from-multisite/
#6
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4 weeks ago
- Keywords needs-testing added
Hi @jorbin,
I’ve opened a PR with a proposed solution. I’d really appreciate it if you could take a look when you have a moment. Thank you!
#7
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4 weeks ago
Replying to ankitkumarshah:
Hi @jorbin,
I’ve opened a PR with a proposed solution. I’d really appreciate it if you could take a look when you have a moment. Thank you!
At this point, I still think this is a philosophical topic to be discussed before proceeding with code changes and time-wasting code-testing. This is a big thing, I would suggest you to introduce this in a dev-chat
to start conversation around this and see which would be the common opinion on which will be the ideal code-proposal. For this reason, I will be switching needs-testing
for 2nd-opinion
(not even needs-test-info
because as I say, here we need for now more opinions than definitive actions).
Moreover, I find interesting giving a second thought to this part, before taking more action:
Replying to MadtownLems:
I'm not opposed to the idea of ending support, but really want to emphasize @jorbin's point 1 about preparing some more polished information about how to do this successfully. Bonus points for a plugin that does any parts of it.
I think the solution is 3 parts: