Opened 17 years ago
Closed 17 years ago
#9974 closed enhancement (wontfix)
Text tweak for option in Text widget
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| Milestone: | Priority: | normal | |
| Severity: | minor | Version: | 2.8 |
| Component: | UI | Keywords: | has-patch tested |
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Description
The patch replaces this:
Automatically add paragraphs.
with this:
Auto-paragraphing
Attachments (1)
Change History (11)
#1
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17 years ago
- Component changed from General to UI
- Milestone changed from 2.8 to 2.9
string freeze
#3
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17 years ago
- Milestone 2.9 deleted
- Resolution set to wontfix
- Status changed from new to closed
me too... let's just close.
#4
follow-up:
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17 years ago
- Milestone set to 2.9
- Resolution wontfix deleted
- Status changed from closed to reopened
What’s wrong with the grammar? “Paragraph” is perfectly common as a verb, and “to auto-paragraph” is used often for this kind of operation.
For “paragraph” as a verb, see:
<http://www.thefreedictionary.com/paragraph>
The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary (probably the finest English dictionary in digital form) gives as second sense of the verb:
“Divide into or arrange in paragraphs.”
It also says that this usage is recorded since the 18th century. (L18: late 18th)
The current string:
First, is *too long* for this space.
Second, and strictly speaking, is not accurate: The option does not add paragraphs. It replaces double line-breaks with p elements (which is too technical for a UI string), or, in other words, it *separates* text into paragraphs.
Please reconsider this.
By the way, how do we know that we are in a string freeze? Is this announced somewhere? (I thought strings got frozen in the first RC.)
#5
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17 years ago
The grammar makes sense to me (Probably because i'm non-US). However, I'm not too sure how the majority of the world would understand "Auto-Paragraphing".
As for string freeze, Like everything in WordPress Development, There is no definite line, However, A few other changes have been set back for that same reason, So..
Its virtually when we're at a point thats close to release, In my time with WordPress, The stages from the final beta (who knows which one it'll be...) to RC's to Release can be as small as a day or 2, Mid-beta seems to be the best string-freeze time around here.
#6
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17 years ago
String freeze happens during beta, we need to give translators enough stability to do the translation so they do not have to lag far behind the english release.
Especially now we have the builtin upgrader with language awareness.
#7
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17 years ago
Replying to demetris:
What’s wrong with the grammar? “Paragraph” is perfectly common as a verb, and “to auto-paragraph” is used often for this kind of operation.
To be fair, I didn't say that there was anything wrong with the grammar, I said that I disliked it. I don't believe that changing things into verbs is a particularly friendly construct in every event, and in this case I don't believe that using "auto-paragraphing" would be any more descriptive of what happens than the existing text. (Neither is true IMO).
Equally I'm not convinced that the existing text is too long for the space. There is still plenty of white space around it in my view. Maybe if you have a tiny screen, but the box is pretty wide anyway.
If I were going to change this text to anything, it would probably be "Keep line breaks."
#8
follow-up:
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17 years ago
@Peter: Yes. On the other hand, it doesn’t make sense freezing strings when the UI is still fluid. See, e.g.:
http://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/11445
This will be in Beta 3 or RC 1, whatever comes next.
It would be good to have an official schedule for this. For one thing, it would save resources. (For example, this patch I submitted here may be irrelevant in 6 months.)
Or, if not an official schedule, then something like this:
- There is always a Beta 2 and strings freeze when Beta 2 is released.
- There is always at least 2 weeks time between Beta 2 and final release.
@mrmist:
This has nothing to do with the current annoying trend of verbing nouns even when a verb already exists. “To paragraph” is established usage, centuries old.
That said, I like your “Keep line breaks” better. But it’s not descriptive of what the option does.
#9
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17 years ago
Replying to demetris:
@Peter: Yes. On the other hand, it doesn’t make sense freezing strings when the UI is still fluid. See, e.g.:
That was 6 days ago and has already been in multiple nightly drops to which the translators can upgrade using the built in upgrader.
I pushed for a string freeze after this change had been made.
It would be good to have an official schedule for this. For one thing, it would save resources. (For example, this patch I submitted here may be irrelevant in 6 months.)
Or, if not an official schedule, then something like this:
- There is always a Beta 2 and strings freeze when Beta 2 is released.
- There is always at least 2 weeks time between Beta 2 and final release.
Yes we need a clearer schedule. This isn't the right place to discuss it though.
Replaces “Aumatically add paragraphs.” with “Auto-paragraphing” in Text widget option