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Opened 11 months ago

Closed 8 months ago

Last modified 8 months ago

#51664 closed enhancement (fixed)

Events Widget: Show "organize an event" message more often.

Reported by: iandunn Owned by: iandunn
Milestone: 5.7 Priority: normal
Severity: normal Version:
Component: Administration Keywords: has-patch needs-docs
Focuses: Cc:

Description (last modified by iandunn)

One of the best things about the Events Widget is that it encourages people to organize an event when there aren't any in their area.

Now that we're pinning global online WordCamps and Learn discussion groups, though, people never see that message.

Instead of displaying it when there are 0 events, we could display it when there are less than 2 or 3.

That should lead to more local events being organized by the community. (Those would take place online during COVID, of course, but they'd still building local community.)

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past - has encourage message.png (130.2 KB) - added by iandunn 11 months ago.
In the past, the encouragement message was shown:
current - no encourage message.png (126.8 KB) - added by iandunn 11 months ago.
Currently, the message is almost never shown:
future - has encourage message.png (137.1 KB) - added by iandunn 11 months ago.
In the future, we could show it when there's only 1 or 2 events:

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Change History (24)

@iandunn
11 months ago

In the past, the encouragement message was shown:

@iandunn
11 months ago

Currently, the message is almost never shown:

@iandunn
11 months ago

In the future, we could show it when there's only 1 or 2 events:

#1 @iandunn
11 months ago

  • Description modified (diff)

This ticket was mentioned in Slack in #community-team by iandunn. View the logs.


11 months ago

#3 @sippis
11 months ago

Love the idea! I'd show the message if there are less than 3 events.

Can you remind me, to which page we link to in that message? Because after the new Learn WordPress platform is fully launched, I'd like to see that page reflect the fact that virtually everyone can lead a discussion group (which is a bit different than organizing an event).

Of course, the change in core can't reflect that so much as we probably want to land with a text that keeps time.

#5 follow-up: @anyssa
11 months ago

I like the idea!

I think the message should be composed in a way that it suggests that there may already be a community organizing events, and the person can join them to help. Because some people could have the impression that they will simple organize events on their own, or even create a "competing" event.

Last edited 11 months ago by anyssa (previous) (diff)

#6 in reply to: ↑ 4 ; follow-up: @sippis
11 months ago

Replying to iandunn:

That's a good idea. It points to https://make.wordpress.org/community/handbook/meetup-organizer/welcome/.

We probably should create a completely new page...

Could we use some "general" address like wordpress.org/organise-community-event in the Core so that we could change the location where it redirects if/when needed more easily?

#7 in reply to: ↑ 5 ; follow-up: @iandunn
11 months ago

Replying to anyssa:

the message should be composed in a way that it suggests that there may already be a community organizing events

That's a good point. What would be good way to say that?

I think one thing to balance with that will be how verbose the message is. The landing page talks about existing vs new groups, so we might be able to rely on that for the details.

#8 in reply to: ↑ 6 @iandunn
11 months ago

Replying to sippis:

create a completely new page... use some "general" address like wordpress.org/organise-community-event

That like a good idea. We do something similar for the "Meetups" link, which points to https://make.wordpress.org/community/meetups-landing-page, and then gets redirected to meetup.com/pro/wordpress.

#9 in reply to: ↑ 7 ; follow-up: @anyssa
11 months ago

Replying to iandunn:

That's a good point. What would be good way to say that?

Maybe something like:

Want more events? Join your local community

Or:

Want more events? Help organize the next one!

#10 in reply to: ↑ 9 @AmethystAnswers
11 months ago

Replying to anyssa:

Maybe something like:

Want more events? Join your local community

Or:

Want more events? Help organize the next one!

These messages are great. Short, sweet, to the point.
I really like the idea of having this notice available more often as suggested. I agree that it would be good to have the split messaging to help organize or join. We always remind our members that they are welcome to organize meetings and don't need to rely solely on us "the main organizers". To that end, I think it would be great if the dual messages could rotate so everyone, even current members, are reminded that they too can organize.

#11 @iandunn
11 months ago

Want more events? Help organize the next one!

I really like that! It could make it less intimidating for folks, to know they don't have to do it all alone.

This ticket was mentioned in PR #764 on WordPress/wordpress-develop by iandunn.


10 months ago

  • Keywords has-patch added

When no events are available in the Events Widget, people have always been shown a message encouraging them to help organize one (see tmpl-community-events-no-upcoming-events). Now that it's common for online WordCamps and Learn discussion groups to be pinned to the Events API, it's rare that there are no events in the widget, even if there are no _local_ events. Because of that, users are rarely encouraged to join their local community and help organize.

This commit adds an additional call-to-action message, which is shown when there are 1 or 2 events available.

Trac ticket: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/51664

#13 follow-up: @iandunn
10 months ago

  • Keywords needs-docs added
  • Milestone changed from Awaiting Review to 5.7
  • Owner set to iandunn
  • Status changed from new to assigned

PR #764 starts to implement this.

We'll still need to create the page mentioned in comment:6.

#14 in reply to: ↑ 13 @sippis
10 months ago

Replying to iandunn:

PR #764 starts to implement this.

We'll still need to create the page mentioned in comment:6.

I'll work to create that page this week.

Can we change the URL in Core to some general and just do redirect to wanted page, in case that is to change at some point or if we don't get the new page published before 5.7?

#15 @iandunn
10 months ago

Yup, definitely. For the "Meetups" link in the widget, we use https://make.wordpress.org/community/meetups-landing-page.

My first thought for this would be something like: https://make.wordpress.org/community/organize-event-landing-page

I like that that puts it under the Community Team, and that it makes it clear that it's landing page. That may help avoid conflicts with real pages in the future, but it's mostly subjective. I'm open to other ideas.

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9 months ago

#17 @iandunn
8 months ago

5.7-beta1 is on Tuesday, so we'll need to commit it by then unless we want to bump to 5.8.

Since we'll be using a redirect anyway, we could launch this in 5.7 w/ the link redirecting to https://make.wordpress.org/community/handbook/meetup-organizer/. Then, whenever the new landing page is ready, we could update the redirect (on the w.org side) to point there.

How does that sound @sippis ?

#18 @sippis
8 months ago

@iandunn makes total sense.

#19 @iandunn
8 months ago

  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from assigned to closed

In 50133:

Community Events: Show organizer CTA when less than 3 events.

When no events are available in the Events Widget, people have always been shown a message encouraging them to help organize one (see tmpl-community-events-no-upcoming-events). Now that it's common for online WordCamps and Learn discussion groups to be pinned to the Events API, it's rare that there are no events in the widget, even if there are no _local_ events. Because of that, users are rarely encouraged to join their local community and help organize.

This commit adds an additional call-to-action message, which is shown when there are only 1 or 2 events available.

Props anyssa, sippis, AmethystAnswers.
Fixes #51664.

#21 @prbot
8 months ago

iandunn commented on PR #764:

Doh, I forgot to do that, thanks!

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